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 Post subject: Modificare Tamburi-Discuri Aro 24
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:34 am 
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Ma bate gandul sa pun discuri la Aro atat pe fata cat si pe spate.
Lista cu necesare: - Discuri Samurai(noi) sau Aro (SH)
- Etriere Golf (MK 2/3)
- Calareti CUSTOM
- Slaufuri si conducte modificate

Cei care mai cunosc sa puna detalii :D



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ma si eu ma gandesc la treaba asta, cel putin pe fata, si ma gandesc ca cel mai bine discuri de aro cu etrieri de renault pe fata si pe spate cred ca merg de golf cu tot cu etrieri ca au deja frana de mana (se dau alte gauri la discuri si se fac doi suporti pentru etrieri) am vazut pe undeva cred ca pe club4x4 Semaca ii explica lui Vitalis (sau invers) erau si poze si ceva mai multe detalii


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Pe spate m-am lamurit oarecum asupra procedurii insa pe fata am dubii in privinta la ce tre sa folosesc. Calareti de aro cu etriere de Ar osi discuri de amurai sau pot sa adaptez si alte etriere si alti calareti. Astept sugestii :D



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Pentru puntea fata.

Pornind de la mecanica cu saboti si tamburi, modificarile si piesele necesare sunt urmatoarele:

- Portfuzeta pentru mecanica de discuri. Arata la fel ca cea clasica, avand diferenta faptului ca are 2 urechiuse unde se poate prinde etrierul. Aici sunt doua tipuri - Cele care suporta pivoti superiori tip vechi, si au urechiuse pentru etrier, si cele care suporta pivoti superiori tip nou (sferici). La alegere dupa preferinta fiecaruia pentru pivotii superiori. Pivotii superiori tip nou teoretic sunt buni.

- Disc de frana de ARO (se gasesc inca si noi, la Duexim in CL). Potential ar functiona si discul de Samurai de fata.

- Etrier de frana de ARO sau de Renault 21 (sunt identici, cei de ARO sunt o copie practic) cu placutele aferente.

Toate aceste piese de mai sus ajung ca si costuri noi la magazin la o suma cam mare. Din dezmembrari se pot procura foarte eficient. De asemenea, furtun de frana cu arculet peste el (pentru protectie), ceva mai lung. Se gaseste fara probleme.

Pentru montaj, se desface toata mecanica fata, se inlocuieste portfuzeta clasica (fara urechiuse) cu cea pt discuri (cu urechiuse) pastrand in mod obligatoriu pivotul inferior vechi. Daca este uzat se inlocuieste cu alt pivot inferior dar tip vechi. A se evita in mod complet utilizarea unor pivoti inferiori tip nou - sunt extraordinar de prosti, si pot ceda astfel incat sa-ti zboare roata aiurea.

Avand bratele, pivotii si portfuzeta tip nou montate, se purcede la montarea butuclui, discului, etrierului pe portfuzeta tip nou, MRL, planetara etc.

Cu aceasta problema e rezolvata. Sau nu. Dupa cum colegul nostru tudop a observat, bratele inferioare pentru mecanica disc sutn diferite, in sensul ca au o degajare ce permite la bracare maxima sa nu atinga discul / etrierul in brate. In acest sens trebuie verificat la montaj, unde si ce atinge la bracare maxima, decupat bratul, intarit pe dedesubt cu platband, si continuat operatiunea. Nu am experimentat inca aceasta problema, asa ca fie pe incercate, fie povesteste tudop unde.

Costuri estimative:

2 x Discuri ARO = 2-3 mil (noi magazin)
2 x etrieri R21 = 2-3 mil (dezmembrari auto straine)
2 x portfuzeta ARO = 2-3 mil (duexim)
2 x furtune = 0.5 mil (noi magazin)
Mecanica = nepretuita

Costurile pot scadea considerabil daca se iau piesele din dezmembrari, sau SH. Colegul Herisanu din CL vindea punte fata completa cu 6 mil (brate, discuri, etrieri, portufzete, pivoti, etc), exista dezmebrari, Remat, etc.


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Intradevar frumos povestit. Urmeaza sa vad daca se potriveste dupa ce o sa pun rigida :D la care trebuie sa pun si butucul de Aro.



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Pentru punte rigida pe fata (de TV sau IMS) operatiunile sunt oarecum similare cu o mica diferente....

Nu mai este nevoie de portfuzeta pt discuri, ci de o flansa facuta la strung, fix similar cu cea de pe puntea spate, care sa sustina etrierul. Discul vine pe butuc, etrierul e fix, si gata.


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Oare nu merge pus Discul + etrierul + restul de pe Pajero mk I la puntea rigida de Aro? Intreb pt ca eu le am deja, 4 la numar, si poate raman si cele 6 prezoane de japoneze. Avantaj in gasirea jantelor pt toate gusturile :mrgreen:


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Daca nu schimbi butucul de Aro cu unul de Pajero ma indoiesc ca poti adapta discul de Pajero, cel mult etrierul, dar dupa multa chinuiala. Daca pui punte de TV o sa experimentam impreuna si o sa vedem care-i treaba.



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