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Exista si varianta amortizoarelor de fata de RABA - cum a pus gabi pe spate (daca nu ma insel). Avantajul lor este ca au cursa mai lunga, deci te poti "intinde" mai mult cu flexarea. Pe de alta parte nu poti pune nici foarte putine foi pe fata, pentru ca ai un argument greu pe acolo... Brasovul.

Poate ca nu ma credeti ca Brasovul e cam dublu ca greutate fata de alte motoare, dar reafirm... bate spre 500 de kg, in contextul in care un TDX de exemplu are sub 290kg. Un Peugeot si mai putin decat TDXul, pe la un 250kg maxim.

O alta idee ar fi foi OME, pentru orice masina, dar versiunea HD, desi asta costa. Alta alternativa ar fi foi de IMS, sau poate tot de ARO spate, dar cu 1 maxim 2 foi mici (pt greutate) scoase.


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Suna bine OME, insa dupa parerea mea is cam scumpe pentru ceea ce vreau sa fac, asa ca am sa ma limitez la foi de IMS sau TV, poate de straina da oricum de la dezmembrari de afara. Partea importanta e sa nimeresc amortizoarele (la foi actiunea de comprimare datorata unui soc, revine cu reactiunea care tinde sa arunce puntea reducand aderenta cu solul, dar aceasta problema dispare cand forta de mentinere a amortizoarelor 'invinge' forta de reactiune a foii)



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OME nu sunt asa scumpe pe cat par, pe vremuri batea pe la 8 mil un set de foi, daca nu ma insel... chiar mai putin... acum nu mai stiu exact. Bine, pentru ARO e scump, dar oricum.

De asemenea ca o gluma proasta, sa ai grija la fenomenul de axle wrap. :D Mai ales daca pui turbo. :lol:


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:lol: ehe he pana atunci mai trebuie sa ii creasca brasovului vreo 3 turbine si vreo 2 pistoane macar



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Arcurile spate de ARO au 123 cm si prea mari.
Cele de IMS au 108 cm si sunt mai potrivite dintre cele autohtone.
Sa vad cat sunt cele de TV insa nu stiu cum se comporta fata de greutatea Aroului
Ecartamentul axelor de M, TV, ARO e identic: 1445mm



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Mai bine le pastrezi pe cele de Aro de 123 cm. Daca sunt mai lungi, flexeaza mai bine, poate avea cursa mai lunga. La capitolul telescoape, eu ma voi axa pe cele de Raba/Saviem puse in "X". Adica la puntea spate, privit din spate, va fi un telescop prins din dreapta fata a grupului spre lonjeronul din stanga. Celalat va fi prins din stanga spate a grupului spre lonjeronul din dreapta. Astfel, flexarea va fi maxima, iar riscurile ca telescoapele sa se loveasca intre ele, practic nul. Tot-odata, telescoapele vor prinse de punte, deasupra, reducand riscul sa le agat prin bolovani. Prinderea telescoapelor in X, ofera tot-odata o stabilitate sporita, dar o rigidizare mai slaba, tocmai de aceea voi folosi de raba, pentru ca-s mai "spartane" fara de cele de autoturisme. Inca un avantaj ar fi ca avand o cursa lunga, se pot monta astfel incat niciodata sa nu se ajunga pe limita telescopului.
La puntea fata ince nu am gasit o solutie, dar presupun ca voi proceda cam la fel. Deja puntea fata de IMS e ca si luata, Vineri o aduc acasa. Mai ramane de procurat o punte spate de Aro, 2 blocanti :twisted: , si poi trec la revizuirea acestora, inclusiv schimbarea sistemului de franare cu unul pe discuri ventilate. Poate pana la Craciun, le si pun pe masina.


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Nu cred ca merg cele de spate de Aro pentru ca nu ai suficient spatiu pe sasiu ca sa sudezi cerceii. Cel mai bine e sa incerc cu cele de TV sau IMS.
Mai am si o poza cu un sasiu de Defender care oarecum seamana cu cel de Aro


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Trage o ruleta pe orizontala din capatul lonjeronului din fata pana la centrul grupului fata sa vezi daca ies 62 cm. Daca da, iti intra foile de aro. Daca nu, vezi ce intra...


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Foile de ARO si TV nu merg, sunt prea lungi; urmeaza sa masor pe cele de IMS.
Ca sa montez jantele de pe Aro pe puntea de TV trebuie sa schimb butucul de 6 prezoane cu unul in 5, dar prinderea la planetara sa fie in 6 suruburi nu in 10 sau 12 ca la Aro 24. Butucul ar trebuie sa fie de Aro 320 spate sau IMS cred.



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