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 Post subject: [ARO 24x/32x/M] Elicoidale cu prindere in 4 puncte
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:39 am 
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Cea mai buna prindere pentru o punte rigida pe elicoidale, aplicabila la puntea spate de ARO este in 4 puncte.

Pentru a calcula dimensiunea bratelor putem considera schemele urmatoare.


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 Post subject: Re: [ARO 24x/32x/M] Elicoidale cu prindere in 4 puncte
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Nu este nici un secret, am si eu de ceva vreme aceleasi desene de mai sus, si modificarea este facuta exact cum scrie acolo (articolul si descrierea sunt mai ample, il rog pe Stefan sa puna linkul pentru ca eu am pierdut niste informatii in urma unei defectiuni la colculator) la mine gandurile au fost mai vechi dar de modificat doar anul trecut am trecut la fapte, si sunt foarte multumit de rezultat desi inca mai testez diferite arcuri (unele sunt prea tari, altele sunt moi si ok dar daca am 2-3 persoane in spate devin prea moi). Referitor la cea mai buna solutie, depinde in primul rand ce vrei sa faci cu masina, daca vrei ca si mine cea mai buna flexare si o buna mobilitate in off. atunci da cea cu 4 linkuri in V (brate) este cea mai buna, daca vrei si ceva flex dar si o stabilitate buna pe asfalt faci o suspensi cu 5 linkuri (4 brate drepte si o bara panhard).
P.S. in legatura cu secretul, din pacate am pierdut si poze si alte documente in urma unei defectari ale calculatorului, o sa fac unele poze gata montate, sau poate o sa le vedeti pe viu in primavara.


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Salut Mihai,in primavara vreau sa trec si eu pe elicoidale,ai spus ca ai incercat mai multe arcuri,cele care ti s au parut moi,de la ce masina sint?Cred ca astea m ar avantaja pt ca spatele va fi f usor,vreau sa tai sasiul pina la roata.Multam.


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Nu stiu din pacate de la ce masina sunt, (am luat de la un prieten mai multe arcuri si nu mai stia care cum) incerc acum arcuri de dacie de fata sunt putin mai tari dar merg si cu incarcatura usoara, daca raman la astea ti le dau pe cele moi poate la tine vor fi ok, incerc si pe fata acum ceva mai moale dar si aici am mai multe variante si mai multe teste de facut, am si niste amortizoare de toyota dar sunt de serie si nu difera prea mult de cele de aro, asa ca trebuie sa incerc ceva mai scump si sper mai bun. Oricum comportamentul cu arcuri mai moi este mult mai bun pe macadam si in teren, unde poti sa mergi cu viteze mai mari.


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Ok,daca nu ti mai fac trebuinta ,le iau eu ,ma gindeam sa pun arcuri cit mai lungi si moi ,sa poata flexa in voie,eventual doua mortizoare.


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Cat mai lungi si moi.... Arcurile de Dacia papuc, de pe fata. Am vazut puse si pe Toyote astfel de arcuri si erau super ok.


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Dupa ceva cautari intense am gasit niste informatii, pe care le-am folosit in modificarile de pe masina mea, problema este ca poti face foarte multe ajustari,(unele proaste, dar cu invataminte le-am incercat si eu) depinde de gustul si dorintele fiecaruia in a sta suspensia, interesant este ca lucrezi la suspensia spate si se influenteaza foarte mult comportamentul total al masinii, dar si al puntii fata (desi nu ai lucrat la ea) asa ca cel mai bine este ca fiecare sa incece sa isi seteze, modifice in functie de ce vrea de la masina, mai multe aici http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/4link.shtml si pagina complecta cu ce a pus Stefan http://www.muddtanks.com/4LinkSuspArticle.htm , astept discutii cu modificarile voastre, sper ca am fost de ajutor :idea:


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E buna documentatia,dar mai interesant ar fi niste poze cu ce ai facut tu,am inteles ca ai pierdut pozele din calculator,poate reusesti sa faci altele,nu-i graba ...pina in primavara cind ne vom apuca si noi de modificat. :)


Klezule,nu-i rea ideea cu arcurile de papuc ;)


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