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 Post subject: 4x4 permanent la ARO 24x
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:55 pm 
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Cunoaste cineva daca s-a montat pe aro transmisie 4x4 permanent sau daca se poate face o asemenea modificare? Stiu ca nu este economic sa rulezi permanent 4x4 dar iarna este necesar de cele mai multe ori..
Iar pentru deplasarea pe distante lungi cred k ar fi nevoie de o cutie cu 6 trepte sau de o modificare pentru a multiplica turatia la iesire din cutie cand se ruleaza 4x2.. Cu cutia in 5 trepte nu se obtine o viteza prea mare si asta la turatia maxima a motorului.. Am eu niste idei dar poate a facut cineva mai exact...


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I'm made experience - don't unlock weel hubs in flow of two years. On fuel consumption - not different. But, the front driving system (bearings, driving shafts) on ARO 24 not adapted for high speed motion.
One more time the theme - "full time" for ARO. I'm think of this theme...


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Se gasesc solutii pentru orice. De ex. la puntea fata, solutia vine de la Cab512 cu planetarele si fuzetele modificate, ca sa rulezi mai bine la viteze mari. Mai departe trebuie schimbata cutia de transfer cu una separata de cutia de viteze, deci cu al 3lea cardan de la cutia de viteze la cutia de transfer, care evident trebuie sa fie cu diferential central. O mica adaptare la suportii pe sasiu, la maneta de comanda, si gata, 4x4 permanent. Pentru viteza mai mare, poti schimba oricand grupurile din punti cu unele cu raport mai mic, desi nu prea inteleg de ce ai vrea sa mergi cu mai mult de 100kmh cu un Aro :mrgreen:



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Standar au fost ARO echipate cu asa ceva, in sensul de cutie de transfer cu diferential central (blocabil).

Dincolo de Ford V6 Cosworth care are asa ceva (cutie de viteze mazda si cutie de transfer borg-warner cu diferential central blocabil) a mai existat un tip de cutie de transfer similar pe alte motorizari.

Stiu ca exista in Deva o masina de acest gen, poate ne da Nat mai multe detalii despre acea masina.


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Eu am deja pe masina grupuri de fuga... dar nu este suficient pentru mine cel putin.. Exista cumva si un al 3-lea set de grup pentru aro cu un raport de demultiplicare mai mic? Sau se pot face undeva pe comanda??


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Grup "mai de fuga" decat 41/11 este 35/11.



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In primul rand Brasovul nu e facut pentru fuga. Face altele. In al doilea rand nici ARO nu e o masina chiar de fuga, are destule chestii ce pot si ar trebui imbunatatite

Iar ideea de viteza cu ARO e diferita de 4x4 permanent, deci e offtopic :D asta zis din topor, zis mai elegant, ar fi bine de dezbatut intr-un subiect separat ca sa vedem solutii si idei. Solutia se cheama Ford V6 daca vrei sa alergi :P si nu Brasov.


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Restul transmisiei e originala, difera doar cutia de transfer.

Desi toata lumea spune ca "se distrug planetarele" daca mergi cu MRLurile cuplate permanent, sau cu capete de butuci fixe, eu tind sa nu dau crezare. Crucile cardanice de calitate rezista lejer la chestia asta.


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