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 Post subject: Schimbat Pompa injectie/alimentare D127 "Brasov"
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:16 pm 
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La ambele Aroaie am schimbat pompa de injectie originala cu una de Alfa Romeo (ceea ce i-a imbunatatit consumul, pornirea si scoate mai putin fum).
La ARO verde i-am schimbat si pompa de alimentare cu una electrica BOSCH, dar din cauza presiunii mari de 6 bari, am fost nevoit sa ii confectionez un retur cu ajutorul unei conducte de cupru si 2 T-uri sudate la autogen. Presiunea suplimentara se ducea direct pe retur.


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 Post subject: Re: Schimbat Pompa injectie/alimentare D127 "Brasov"
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:) Bun bun ; dar ce fel de pompa ; de pe ce model ; un cod ceva si ; ai facut ceva adaptari la conul pinionului de la distributie sau o flansa de prindere :?: :?: :?:



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 Post subject: Re: Schimbat Pompa injectie/alimentare D127 "Brasov"
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Pompa e de pe o Alfa 164. Am facut o adaptare la con. Ca o bucsa conica si pinionul a fost mai subtiat la strung.



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 Post subject: Re: Schimbat Pompa injectie/alimentare D127 "Brasov"
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pompa de tipu ala nu trebuie montata mai jos,(la astea mici parca-s montate sub masina in partea de jos a rezervorului)


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Pompa de alimentare se observa in poza in partea de jos, e cilindrul argintiu. Intradevar la masnile noi, majoritatea au pompa de alimentare submersibila si sta in rezervor. Pompa cum am montat eu se gasesc la masini straine mai vechi sau Daewoo-uri.



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 Post subject: Re: Schimbat Pompa injectie/alimentare D127 "Brasov"
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Si eu vreau sa schimb pompa de injectie...am cautat am citit si pe alte forumuri..abia acum vad ceva exact :D :D Foarte fumos! Dar injectoarele le-ai schimbat sau au ramas cele originale? Si daca ziceti ca imbunatateste functionarea motorului o sa fac si eu aceiasi modificare ;)


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Injectoarele au ramas cele originale, insa se pot pune alt tip de diuze - DTP Germany care sunt ceva mai rafinate (cel putin asa am inteles de la doua persoane care si-au pus).

Pompa de injectie BOSCH / Alfa se preteaza extrem de bine la un Brasov turbo, deoarece are si capsula... Sincer eu iti recomand!


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E mai bun sa ai o pompa pentru motor Turbo deoarce presiunea pe care o face turbina supraalimenteaza motorul si ajuta la cresterea puterii.
La injectoare poti schimba duzele sau injectorul cu tot. Din cate tin minte de la Cabestan erau niste injectoare Bosch, dar poate ne spune el detalii.



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Acea capsula de pe pompa de injectie are un stut. In acel stut vine un furtun de la galeria de admisie. In momentul in care turbina face presiune >0.2 bar, o bucatica mica de presiune merge si in capsula pompei si da putin debit mai mare la motorina, in injectoare, fapt ce duce la o simtitoare crestere a puterii motorului in sarcina. Spun asta din propria experienta, deoarece la mine e acelasi sistem, iar o data in teren mi-a sarit acel furtun de pe galerie si surpriza... Pe langa nitel fum alb, motorul debia daca sarea de 3000 rpm si dupa 2000 rpm parca mergea ca un benzinar in 3 pistoane. Deci Ama, daca pui turbo, probeaza amandoua variante, si ai sa ai o surpriza cu acel furtun pus. Daca ai nevoie de poze de la mine cam pe unde-i conectat, sa-mi spui. App, daca pui turbo, ia-ti si un "Boost Meter" care-ti afiseaza presiunea turbinei. Vezi cat debitezi pompa de injectie, sa nu-ti sara presiunea de 0.8 ca exista riscul sa se rupa turbina.
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Imi puteti spune cam cat costa o pompa de alfa, ca nu am gasit pe net nici un pret si tare ma tenteaza o pompa d-aia. Dak poate cineva sa faca rost...Sper sa nu coste prea mult :D


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