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 Post subject: Re: ROCAR TVD 15F
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Din seria: Mesterul de la Harlau - strica bun si face rau.

S-a actionat foarte mult astazi impreuna cu urmatorii colegi pentru care le multumesc foarte mult de tot:

Zmeu - de dimineata pana seara, a pierdut destoinic o zi cu mine, si am actionat pe multe aspecte
Cipriad - coleg de pe ARO Mania, a stat aproape toata ziua cu noi, dupa ce a terminat ce avea la a lui s-a bagat si la TV, astfel incat ii multumesc si lui pentru ajutor
Tudor Zoom - care a tras de TV multi km ca sa incercam sa-l pornim, si ne-a ajutat si logistic si cu un gratar.
Si in cele din urma, dar nu in ultimul rand Karol - care a venit special sa ne vada, ne-a adus bere, si a actionat si la schimbatul
aerotermei.

In cele din urma pe lista reusitelor, bifam:

- heblu nou perfect functional
- curea alternator noua, dimensiunea corecta
- ceea ce a determinat constatarea ca alternatoru incarca
- aeroterma schimbata
- traseu de apa simplificat
- demontat ciudatenie pe traseul de apa - constatat ca era un incalzitor de motorina dezafectat, care se va reconditiona si monta la loc
- sonda de apa schimbata
- pedala de acceleratie schimbata
- cablu de acceleratie schimbat
- amortizor dreapta spate schimbat
- strans tampoane motor fatza
- schimbat (din nou) garnituri pompa ambreiaj cu Ochi de Tigru dupa o noua metoda patentata de a nu demonta pompa de pe masina. Aparent nu mai curge deloc. Deocamdata.
- schimbat una bucata far cu altu mai proaspat, ambele arata frumos
- demontat preventiv anumite piese de pe TVul de piese - alternatorul (care s-a dovedit a fi tot de 36A) si pompa de vacuum care merge si a trecut in stocul de rezerva.

Pe lista nereusitelor bifam:
- nu mai porneste. Nici tras 3-4 kilometri.

Am banuit ca n-are motorina, am completat cu canistra, si tot n-o ia. Trebe verifiat tot traseul, pompa de alimentare, si pompa de injectie (sa nu fi sarit opritoru, si sa il inconvenieze - la sugestia lui razvan_sos o sa verific asta maine).

Vedem maine pe lumina.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:02 am 
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Eu am impresia ca te-ai fetelizat la Bucuresti. Pe vremuri, ce faci tu acum intr-o zi, era rezolvat in 3 ore si fara prea multa gargara.
Cu pompa de injectie ce ganduri ai? O tii sau o schimbi ?



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Pana pe la 1 am actionat la 10le lui zmeu, la el la bloc, dupa aia abia am ajuns la Fabrica.

Astazi am continuat actiunea cu Tudor (zoom) si Karol si am realizat urmatoarele:

La prima ora mers cu metrou si autobuzu pana la Fabrica, ulterior dupa constatare defect - nu mai merg supapele din pompa de alimentare, nu tine presiunea, cade inapoi spre rezervor, m-am deplasat la magazinu de ARO unde ma cunoaste deja omu de acolo... Am luat supape unisens si m-am intors (cu metrou).

Dupa care.... Montat supape unisens, reglaj tampoane fatza, sa stee bine motoru, apoi incercari pornire - nimic. Multe ture de cartier cu Tudor. Verificat pompa de injectie, opritor, nimic. Nu ajungea deloc la injectoare, desi era amorsata pe primu surub. Concluzie - cap hidraulic dus.

Astfel incat, de pe ambele cotetze:
- dat jos pompa injectie
- dat jos injectoare
- dat jos galerie apa
- dat jos galerie admisie

Dupa care s-a purces la
- curatzat injectoare de schimb
- curatzat alte piese mici si mari
- montat injectoare
- montat pompa injectie
- montat fluier apa
- montat galerie admisie
- pus toate racoardele si furtunele

S-a lucrat cu garnituri, silicon, tot frumos. Iarasi incercari de pornire cu Karol cu ture in cartier, tot nimic. De'acu in alta zi mai vedem mai departe.

Avantaj TV de piese = mult mai proaspat totul pe el, si totul original. Aveam carmoaja si sudura in doua locuri pe fluieru de apa, iar galeria de admisie numi placea mie, ca era tot asa cumva carmojita in fund cu sudura, iar locasul de bujie era departe tare de adevar. Astlanta are bujia centrat, cum ar trebui...

Cam atat deocamdata, mai vedem


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Teodora se aprinde foarte repede, mai ales daca dai cu spray pe admisie, dar nu porneste...
Noroc ca aveam sticla de 1L de bere in mana ca cine stie....defapt a fost Stejar



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:12 pm 
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Da... pe spray de curatzat frane merge oarecum, dar motorina nu trage.

Schimb pompa de alimentare cu totu' si mai vedem.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:49 pm 
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Am schimbat pompa de alimentare, montat furtun transparent inainte de pompa de injectie si s-au constatat (in continuare) urmatoarele probleme.

- curgea motorina pe la holenderu de intrare la pompa de alimentare. Constatat saibe din klingherit, rupte si obosite - pus saibe de cupru.
- curgea motorina pe la holenderu de intrare la pompa de alimentare, in continuare. Schimbat holender. Nu era fisurat, avea o sudura de cositor, care probabil plangea. Acum nu mai curge.
- nu intra motorina in pompa de injectie. Constatat holender intrare avea un fel de bilutza anti-pierdere presiune, dar care nu lasa deloc sa treaca nimic. Schimbat, a mers, si am reusit sa aerisesc pompa de injectie, la primul aerisitor.
- nu ajunge motorina la injectoare, decat foarte putina.

Asa ca am dus mai multe pompe de injectie si un set de injectoare la pompagiu spre verificare. Sa vedem acum ce zice, si ce montam / schimbam.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:27 pm 
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Si nu cumva holenderul cu bilutza blocata ti-o facut problema de la care o inceput tot ? Ma rog, deacuma nu mai conteaza, spor la montat la loc :D



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Most obvious...

Oricum vroiam sa schimb galeria de aer, si de apa ca nu-mi placeau. Am ajuns is la injectoare si pompa, care-s la pompagiu, ceea ce si aia e bine. Deci oricum schimbarile is bune...


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MERGE!!!! :D

Dupa multe reglaje, si probleme is locuri prin care mai curgea pe ici pe colo (capacul de la pompa de injectie, aerisitor de pe conducta din fundu pompei, filete roase si schimbate prezoane la capac, reglat parghia de acceleratie (era defazata de realitate), si tractari... a pornit.

Scoate nijte fum mai mult decat inainte... dar e de motorina (negru), deci trebuie reglata problema pe motor, si vazut ulterior ce si cum. O s-o duc inapoi la "garantie" la pompagiu sa o bibileasca pana mere' cum trebe.

Dar merge! Franele is super ok, ambreaju mere perfect. Are si incarcare, mai lipseste o masa pe triplele spate, dar se rezolva usor.

Sa vedem ce pot sa-i mai fac sapt. asta si sa ne vedem in weekend la Iasi cu cotetzu.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:40 am 
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Bravo man,bine ca merge,astept sa ma faci o tura cu Tv ul cind ajungi in iasi :D


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