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 Post subject: aro 244 toyota benzina
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:59 pm 
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Am adaugat parcului auto un exemplar rar de aro 244 - motorizare toyota benzina 140 CP. - din 1999.

Masina se prezinta foarte foarte bine. Interiorul curat, nimic rupt, motorul este senzational, are ac, AVM-uri, nu bate si nu troncane nimic, sta dreapta pe drum, etc..

Nu prea am avut timp de poze pentru in cele 2-3 saptamani de cand am avut-o am facut 3-400 km prin oras si padure :). In teren trage si impinge (zapada) intr-un mare fel.


Pe langa remediat probleme, trebuie sa ii schimb rapid grupurile pt ca fiind cu simex 31 impinge destul de greu.


De cand am cumparat-o am facut cateva sute de km fara probleme atat pe asfalt cat si tras de ea prin padure.

Intr-o buna zi, in timp ce se era parcata intr-o parcare subterana si se topea puternic zapada de pe ea, s-a oprit din mers. Adica dupa 1-2 ore de stationare, am pornit-o, am dat sa plec si s-a oprit in mers. i-am dat la cheie destul de mult, a pornit fara sa se tureze si am tarat-o la locul ei. Apoi am revenit dupa 2-3 ore si a mers perfect. Si am mai mers cateva zile bune zi de zi fara probleme.

Intr-o alta zi mai putin buna am spalat-o foarte bine si riguros. Masina a plecat de la spalatorie cateva sute de metri pana la un garaj unde i s-a scos borna de la baterie pentru a se suda toba. Dupa ce s-a sudat nu a vrut sa mai porneasca de loc.
Are scanteie. Pompa de benzina de pe rezervor impinge benzina. Bujiile sunt insa uscate si nu porneste. deloc.
Uneori in incercarile de pornire se mai si ingreuneaza electromotrul si nu inteleg de ce. Adica invarte repede/ apoi la cheia 2 invarte f greu (ca si cum nu ar mai avea baterie) / apoi la cheia 3 invarte iar rpd si in forta.


Evident ca va urma verificarea diverselor relele si mufe, insa orice hint e binevenit. La ce am citit pe net pare a fi senzorul de la axa cu came ca si prim suspect.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:13 pm 
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astea nu sunt cauciucurile pe care le aveai in noaptea aia :):):)


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dupa cum spuneam si in primul post, intampin probleme in a porni masina.



pe rand am facut urmatoarele si tot nu vrea:

- am luat toate mufele posibile si le-am dat cu spray de contacte.
- am verificat senzorul axa came si masurat la rece este in parametri
- am verificat ca ajunge benzina in rampa (e ok).
- scanteie este f ok.
- cele doua cabluri legate langa distribuitoare sunt bine stranse.

concret: cele 4 injectoare nu deschid. s-au masurat si mufele de la injectoare: au masa dar atat. nu deschid. Motorul invarte, pompa impinge benzina ce ajunge in rampa cu presiune, scanteie este insa injectoarele nu deschid.

am tot cautat manualul de service si am gasit doar bucati de info; nu l-am gasit pe tot.
Deasemenea, caut sa vad ce fel de tool e necesar pt testare/diagnoza motor. poate gasesc sa imprumut/inchiriez sa vad exact ce coduri da.


any ideas?

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Vladimir


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:36 pm 
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Incearca sa mai verifici odata daca ai masa de la (-) bateriei la toti senzorii si componentele de pe motor, nu numai la injectoare.. vezi si aia de temperatura, etc..

Pompa de bezina baga presiune suficienta?



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Cu electromotorul puteti merge la un electrician bun, poate v-a scapat vreun detaliu :)

In schimb cu motorul, nu cred ca s-a ars ECU... Eu zic sa va faceti weekendul pe net, sa rascoliti peste tot problema asta generalizata la motoare japoneze si faceti o lista de probleme si solutii :lol:



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E colegul axxel4you din Bucuresti (Sebastian) care are un model identic si putem incerca sa-l abuzam sa facem teste cu ECU (uite ECU nu e ECU)...

Cred ca aveam candva si numarul lui :D


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puteti alimenta permanent injectoarele sa vedeti daca deschid?


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domnilor,

Se pare ca problema a fost momentant elucidata si anume ECU prezinta o serie de circuite arse. Codul de pe ECU este rupt (eticheta).

Drept urmare va rog sa ma ajutati cu oricare din urmatoarele:
- o poza cu un ECU sa ii vad exact codul
- vreo zona/sursa de unde pot face rost la un pret rezonabil de un ECU.
- cineva disponibil sa imi imprumute ECU pt a vedea daca totusi porneste.

Va multumesc,
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