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 Post subject: Re: [ARO 24x/32x/M] Elicoidale cu prindere in 4 puncte
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Cel mai in masura sa spuna exact ce arcuri is cele mai bune, e NelloRunner (Club16). El a incercat pe Toyota lui cateva seturi de arcuri si spunea ca cele mai bune la capitolul offroad-onroad sunt cele de Dacie Papuc, insa nu stiu exact care anume si din ce an.... presupun ca nu-s toate la fel. Oricum, il intreb w.e. asta ca ne intalnim la o iesire mica si apoi voi "turna" mai departe. Ma incanta si pe mine foarte tare sa-i pun elicoidale fata/spate, insa din pacate am auzit ca e foarte mult de munca. Mai ales la noi, cei care initial au avut independenta fata, acum trec pe rigide si mai pun si elicoidale. M-i se pare un proiect al naibii de obositor. Dar am o intrebare... Oare daca o sa il las pe foi de arc si o sa fie incaltat cu 35"-uri desumflate la 1.5 atm... Oare o sa fie cat de cat apropiat de confortul elicoidalelor?


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Nu uita ca daca pui roti mai mari trebuie sa ai in vedere si schimbarea grupurilor.



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Usor cu siguranta nu este dar nici foarte greu nu mi se pare,am sa fac exact ca la Patrol.Acum sincer sa fiu decit sa-i pun rigida pe fata mai degraba in pun elicoidale si blocant pe spate .Cu rigida pe fata ii creste greutate cam cu 100kg ,apare un dezechilibru fata de spate cam mare mai ales ca vreau sa ii tai spatele pina la roata.Deocamdata vad ca nu am mai rupt nici o planetara.La ce vrei sa pui 35 uri,la Mitzu sau IMS?Daca e prea rigida mai scoti o foaie de arc,.1,5 e mult in teren eu merg cu 0,5 sau 1 maxim,ai sa vezi ca e mare diferenta.1 cred ca e cel mai indicat.


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Pai la puntile de IMS, puse pe Mitsu. Am in vedere si rapoartele. Vor fi cele mai de forta care au echipat si blocant spate. Auzisem ca duc 35/12.5/15 fara probleme...


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36/7 suporta foarte bine 35-uri. Dar acum pentru expeditii si drum lung, nush cat de pont e sa mergi cu gume mari desumflate. Consum mare si viteza mica.



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cu intarziere si cam de proasta calitate, pun niste poze cu modificarile


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se vede in una din poze si rasucirea puntii pentru a nu mai forta crucea, cardanul fiind mai drept fata de original


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in ultimele doua se vede (nu prea bine) prinderea la bratele superioare pe sasiu, unde a trebuit sa sudez un profil pentru ca aveam de ce sa ma prind, si o ultima poza cu prinderile la bratele superioare pe punte


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E faina lucrarea.Tendoanele din exterior nu mergeau prinse in locul de prindere al foilor(pe sasiu ma refer)?Ai folosit si bucse de cauciuc sau e fier pe fier,nu se vede din poza?Panhard vad ca nu ai mai pus,nu ti pleaca deloc puntea stinga -dreapata?Stiu ca alea de pe mijloc sint in V dar parca mai sigur mi se pare cu panhard.Cam cit flexeaza puntea ,ca mi se pare ca tendonul exterior e prins sub sasiu ,deci la o flexare mai mare ...atinge sasiul?Multumesc,sper ca nu te am stresat prea tare cu intrebarile.


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Flexeaza mai "natural" o punte cu 4-link sau 3-link decit una cu tendoane si panhard.. bara panhard ii da o traiectorie ciudata a puntii in lateral. Totusi e mult mai sigura si apar eforturi mai mici la solutia cu panhard. Mai este o masina romaneasca cu punte pe spate si 3-link : DACIA clasica, 1300 :mrgreen: are 2 brate cu bucse sub punte si un brat triunghular deasupra puntii, era o solutie destul de buna, rar aveai probleme pe spate :lol:

Exemplu de tri-link http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/full- ... ed-719719/ cam acelasi principiu ca la vechea dacie, doar ca ceva mai rezistent :P



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